APMG accredited ITIL examination institute Peoplecert copying intellectual property?

[Updated 22/10/10 with more news, see end of this post]
[...and 23/10 with even more silliness from Peoplecert]
[...and so it goes on. Peoplecert seem totally incapable of understanding how copyright law operates.. how do they get to be an EI?]
[update 27/10: finally the content properly honours the original source, but it leaves us with two questions - see end of this post]

Not long ago the IT Skeptic told you about the appointment of the ninth ITIL Examination Institute (EI), Peoplecert, of Greece. Is this related to the ITSM-ITIL-PeopleCert website busily ripping off everyone else's web content without permission and using the trademarked ITIL swirl logo as their twitter picture? I hope an EI would have more respect for intellectual property. of course it can't be them because they are accredited by APMG and APMG audit their EIs so closely. Can it?

In that original post about the appointment of Peoplecert I said

I'm left to wonder whether... manageability (and hence protection of the value of ITIL certification, whatever is left) wouldn't be better served by an expansion of the existing Institutes rather than an increasing number of independent bodies and systems to be policed. Especially as ITIL extends its tendrils into some of the murkier corners of the world.

I first heard about the ITIL_ITSM_PEOPLECERT site from a tweet by vagrasala. The site is registered to
ECDL Hellas SA
ECDL ECDL
Korai 3
Athens, Attika 10564
GREECE

who happen to own Peoplecert, the APMG accredited EI.
[Amusingly the ITIL_ITSM_PEOPLECERT site asserts copyright over the copied content, owned by a Peoplecert site that i can't reach from new Zealand due to DNS failure. It's the same site linked to from the APMG EI webpage entry for Peoplecert]

It is a roll of honour the sites Peoplecert have copied (some of them several times):
ITSM Watch
Network World
Tech Republic
SYS-CON
HP's ITSM blog
Servicesphere
Hank Marquis
Vagrasala
ITSM Professor
Infosys
ITIL News
ITIL Training UK and Global Knowledge (I bet they'll be complaining to their EIs!)

Of course the reason I'm so mad about it is because they appear to have overlooked copying the IT Skeptic.

Peoplecert seem unaware that copying the entire content (and graphics) of somebody else's article is not OK just because you put a link to it at the bottom (which they don't always do either). Even if they acknowledged the copyright - which they don't - it STILL wouldn't be OK [to reproduce an entire article] without permission. If there is a copyright statement on the original - which there was on some - then without permission it's theft. If there wasn't, then it is unethical and lazy.

in fact there doesn't appear to be a shred of original content on the entire site. talk about value-add (not to mention a clear lack of in-house ITIL thought leadership).

And as an accredited EI I suppose they are allowed to use the Swirl as their twitter picture. We'll see.
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What a shame to see an accredited ITIL Examination institute trampling all over the intellectual property of others.

[Update next day:

Somebody please educate the accreditors of the ITIL training industry on how copyright works. After this post went out yesterday, suddenlly all the ripped-off sites appear on the "blogroll". As if that makes it alright.

Yesterday's blogroll:
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Today's blogroll:
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[23/10: one more day and one more mis-step:

Now Peoplecert have specifically named the sites they are copying, while still copying the entire article and still not acknowledging the copyright (which they are violating unless they have prior permission of ITSMWatch, Network World, HP etc, which I doubt)
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As I said in a comment below,
Perhaps it would be better described as an "other-people's-work in progress". You've jump started alright, by jumping on the backs of others.

Given the heavy letters that TSO send out to anyone who encroaches on your intellectual-property-based business monopoly, it is a bit rich when you leverage everyone else's hard work to build a commercial site that has so far contributed precisely nothing to the ITIL community.

This is either legal or moral copyright infringement. EIs have to do better than this if the community is going to tolerate your stranglehold on ITIL intellectual property. Your only honourable course of action is to take down any content you don't have permission to use, and to properly attribute that which you do have permission for.

Or - now here's a radical concept - perhaps you could make some intellectual effort to write about the other article, quoting portions of it appropriately to show you have something original to say and actually know something about ITSM]

[23/10 again. Now the Peoplecert blogsite says

Posts in ITIL-ITSM-PEOPLECERT blog are made according to original post owner's copyright and intellectual property directives. If you think there is a violation or an infringement please contact abuse@itil-itsm-peoplecert.com, so that post is either corrected or removed, copyright notice is added and industry trademarks respected.

For pity's sake people! This isn't difficult. if somebody asserts copyright on their material, YOU MAY NOT COPY IT ALL, only a proportion limited by "reasonable use". It doesn't matter if you say who you nicked it from. And it is not up to them to complain if they want you to stop. YOU CAN'T DO IT.

And even if they don't assert copyright, basic web etiquette says you don't copy it all. You quote some, you make comment, you link to the rest.

How dense can you be? People don't post content for your convenience and for you to take the credit. They post because they want people to read it on their site. It is all about traffic and kudos. Courtesy says you should encourage their traffic not steal it.

Hint: mindless mashups diminish your web cred.]

[27/10/10: One by one the copied posts are being replaced by the first third of the post followed by a link to the original - but not all of them! Peopelcert seem to have a policy of only fixing it if the owner complains.

No value add. Nothing original to say. No indication of any knowledge of ITSM at all, let alone thought leadership. Not even an opinion on the original post. Just a mashup of the first bit. But at least the principle of fair use is being broadly followed and the original source acknowledged.

This leaves me with two questions in mind, to which I have no evidence or answer:

1) if APMG "work closely with our accredited organizations to ensure that services are delivered consistently, professionally, competitively and to a constantly high standard" clearly they didn't work closely enough with Peoplecert. I raised the issue initially of whether APMG could cope with an ever-increasing number of EIs to govern and whether they should be accrediting EIs in "murkier" parts of the world. Does this blatant abuse of intellectual property by an accredited EI point to APMG's inability to cope with the burgeoning ITIL industry?

2) Given Peoplecert's contempt of other people's intellectual property, I wonder where their courseware comes from?]

Comments

two questions

One by one the copied posts are being replaced by the first third of the post followed by a link to the original.

No value add. Nothing original to say. No indication of any knowledge of ITSM at all, let alone thought leadership. Not even an opinion on the original post. Just a mashup of the first bit. But at least the principle of fair use is being broadly followed and the original source acknowledged.

This leaves me with two questions in mind, to which I have no evidence or answer:

1) if APMG "work closely with our accredited organizations to ensure that services are delivered consistently, professionally, competitively and to a constantly high standard" clearly they didn't work closely enough with Peoplecert. I raised the issue initially of whether APMG could cope with an ever-increasing number of EIs to govern and whether they should be accrediting EIs in "murkier" parts of the world. Does this blatant abuse of intellectual property by an accredited EI point to APMG's inability to cope with the burgeoning ITIL industry?

2) Given Peoplecert's contempt of other people's intellectual property, I wonder where their courseware comes from?

Fair Use principle

Skep

Actually I don't think the principle of fair use is being followed. My understanding of Fair Use, from publishing industry guidelines is that fair use allows for the copying of small amounts of material 'for the purpose of criticism or review'. Just copying a bit of a blog post and directing people to the original source is hardly 'criticism or review'.

M

mashup model

I completely agree but the Webworld has adopted the mashup model, where a clipping of the first bit followed by a link is considered acceptable use (because it can be automated). I can live with that because it acts in the original owner's favour by generating traffic not siphoning it away

www.itil-itsm-peoplecert.com

Hi, thanks for taking the time reviewing Peoplecert new external corporate blog http://www.itil-itsm-peoplecert.com.

This blog has just jump started (October 2010), so as it's a work in progress all issues will be resolved and addressed properly.

Progress

Dear Nikos,

An organization (that too an accredited EI) - should not have chosen to 'jump start' and 'progress' by using other's contents.
I was unpleasantly surprised to see my blog contents copied word-by-word.

Now, we see some disclaimer posted on your site regarding the content belonging to original authors.
That is not enough, if you want to respect the copyright of the original authors.

Copying ENTIRE CONTENT and posting it as if your blog post is not acceptable.

You can review other's contents and refer to the original posts if you wish. You can even put a portion of the blog in your site with link to the original post for further reading.

Since you have given an email ID to report (as an aftertought in your 'work in progress') - I have sent a separate, formal mail on to that.

Hope some appropriate action happens there...

Vinod Agrasala
www.itserviceview.com
www.wings2i.com

itil-itsm-peoplecert.com

Hi Vinod,

I personally reviewed and fulfilled your requests, one hour approx. after you posted them yesterday. Feel free to check them yourself.

Nikos Vasilakos
vasilakos at gmail

Theft is the new black

Nikos,
I represent the ServiceSphere organization. I can understand your need to have content on your site. It is tough in these times to jump start your business. Unfortunately you did not ask permission for any of the videos, articles or podcast that you are showing on your site from us.

We wish to have all of our content removed immediately. This includes the blog roll.

Finally your use of our IP in your multiple Facebook fanpages without credit of any type is not only illegal but I find it to be deplorable.

You have 72 hours to remove all ServiceSphere content from your:
1. Multiple Blogs
2. Multiple Facebook Fan pages
3. Multiple twitter accounts

I have contacted Facebook and filed IP infringements against your fanpages.

In 72 hours we will "Jump Start" legal process.

Chris

Websphere links safely removed

Hi Chris,

All links to ServiceSphere were safely removed.

Blogroll ServiceSphere link removed as well.

Nikos Vasilakos
vasilakos at gmail
http://www.nikosvasilakos.gr

work in progress

I didn't review it - it was drawn to my attention by one of your irate victims. Perhaps it would be better described as an "other-people's-work in progress". You've jump started alright, by jumping on the backs of others.

Given the heavy letters that TSO send out to anyone who encroaches on your intellectual-property-based business monopoly, it is a bit rich when you leverage everyone else's hard work to build a commercial site that has so far contributed precisely nothing to the ITIL community.

This is either legal or moral copyright infringement. EIs have to do better than this if the community is going to tolerate your stranglehold on ITIL intellectual property. Your only honourable course of action is to take down any content you don't have permission to use, and to properly attribute that which you do have permission for.

Or - now here's a radical concept - perhaps you could make some intellectual effort to write about the other article, quoting portions of it appropriately to show you have something original to say and actually know something about ITSM

Somebody please educate the accreditors

For those who follow the comment RSS of this blog, I just posted the following update to this post:

Somebody please educate the accreditors of the ITIL training industry on how copyright works. After this post went out yesterday, suddenlly all the ripped-off sites appear on the "blogroll". As if that makes it alright.

Yesterday's blogroll:
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Today's blogroll:
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lest we forget

readers are reminded of how Acend Corporate Learning of Toronto indulged in exactly the same practice some time ago. [Actually worse: Acend pretend it is their own content - they plagiarise. Only when challenged by me did they add links to some of the articles. But as you see here, they still lie through their teeth about the origins of content]

Guess what? they're still at it. Check out this post

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and this post

Finding the perfect gift for techies is no easy matter. After all, by definition, geeks are steeped in the latest and greatest of tech gadgets, and it's just as difficult to find a tech-based subject they don’t already think they know everything about.

To help you find the perfect gift for the techie in your life -- or to steer a loved one toward something you'd really like -- InfoWorld.com has looked beyond the obvious to uncover 10 seriously cool new gadgets and 24 must-read tech books that will appeal to the geek in all of us.

fear

They were probably too afraid of copying from your site.... They also didn't copy (according to your list that is) from the ITS Portal, another original content site.

I doubt they were that careful

I doubt they were that careful. This is a product of sloppiness and ignorance, not guile. it's forgivable to some extent in a newbie personal blog. it's not forgivable in an EI, who are themselves accreditation agents.

the mysterious William Gill

Soem of this content also shows up on a greek BlogSpot site of a mysterious "William Gill" which links to PeopleCert

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