The IT Skeptic - Comments for "Don't swim against the tide: ten alternatives to itSMF for ITIL practitioners"

Been reading Forrester?

Visitor — Sat, 13 Oct 2007 18:17:36 +0000

Forrester published the same sort of thinking (with different conclusions) a couple of times last year as part of their BT agenda. Industry has, so far, shown little interest. Gartner, I recall, beat the same drum during 2002 or so, to the same effect.

Correction on Service Management Institute

kengon — Sat, 13 Oct 2007 16:06:43 +0000

Skep,

This is a great list. I enjoyed viewing the various sites.

The correct URL for the Service Management Institute is:
http://www.sm-i.org

The one you have published here doesn't work correctly.

kengon

What's in a name?

Charles T. Betz — Sat, 13 Oct 2007 13:27:31 +0000

I spent some time considering what's in a name, and came to the conclusion that the core should be "Information Services." If I take the position that any organization I want representing me should have a modern name that expresses exactly where the industry is going, none of them fit.

Charles T. Betz
http://www.erp4it.com

IoSM

Peter Brooks (FISM) — Sat, 13 Oct 2007 05:19:26 +0000

That's an interesting list, I hadn't heard of some of the organisations. I suppose that that might say something about them - but then again, it might just be my ignorance.

You criticised me a while back for listing the ISM (or IoSM) as a success of the itSMF. You list the ISM as an 'alternative' to the itSMF. The brochure on the ISM site:

http://www.iosm.com/upload/documents/ISM%20vs%20itSMF%20benfits%20Brochure.pdf

explains the benefits provided by the two organisations and makes it pretty clear that they view each other as complimentary, not competitive. I certainly find it valuable to be a member of the itSMF and a fellow of the ISM. I think that subscribing to its code of conduct is something that would benefit all Service Management practitioners.
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I have been a supporter of the ISM since its inception and also wish that it would grow faster and be taken up in more parts of the world - something that the itSMF could well work to do. Part of the difficulty in growing the ISM is its very nature. It has to have strict and carefully enforced conditions for membership to be credible as a professional body, and these do limit its growth to those who are properly qualified and have adequate relevant experience.

I have, in the past, had the misfortune to work for a couple of bad (and predictable) managers. I certainly didn't find that knowing that made the situation better and, even with them, I still tried to help them do a better job. I'm not a fatalist, but an optimist, and, though I'm sceptical, I'm not a pessimist or a cynic - that's probably why I want things to improve where they can.

The IT Skeptic - Comments for "Don&#039;t swim against the tide: ten alternatives to itSMF for ITIL practitioners"

Been reading Forrester?

Correction on Service Management Institute

What's in a name?

IoSM

The IT Skeptic - Comments for "Don't swim against the tide: ten alternatives to itSMF for ITIL practitioners"